{"id":2817,"date":"2022-04-26T09:28:51","date_gmt":"2022-04-26T14:28:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.messy-spirituality.com\/wordpress\/?p=2817"},"modified":"2022-04-26T09:28:51","modified_gmt":"2022-04-26T14:28:51","slug":"they-may-not-come-back","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.messy-spirituality.com\/wordpress\/2022\/04\/26\/they-may-not-come-back\/","title":{"rendered":"They May Not Come Back"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>This is a really good article.\u00a0 Well worth the read but more importantly, well worth a conversation in the congregation and to chew upon the meaning for congregations going forward.\u00a0 People respond differently today. If the \u201cchurch\u201d wants to be relevant, then the message must reach true authenticity, where people are at. 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